BY MR. FISHER:  I second it.

BY MAYOR AULTMAN:  Okay.  Any other questions or comments regarding this motion or any questions regarding the issue on the floor?

BY MR. FISHER:  Mayor, I'd like to make a quick comment.  Since we're talking about the interpretation now, I would have a comment to make when we get on the other motion.  I think it can be easily said -- and anybody on this board will agree with me when I say this -- I probably am as difficult to deal with with the department heads as anybody on the board of aldermen is.  I question extensively what they do.  I don't just accept what they say, and I don't always go along with them.

BY MAYOR AULTMAN:  Is this confessional time?

BY MR. FISHER:  But I want to say that Gary did his job and I truly believe that.  Gary's responsibility in this whole event is to interpret the zoning ordinances as they are written in this book and how they apply in the city.  Not his opinions, whether he thinks the treehouse ought to stay up or whether he doesn't think the treehouse ought to stay up, I can't honestly tell you and I've talked to Gary numerous times.  I've asked him endless questions about this.  But he did his job, and that's what we pay him to do.  And I know a lot of people have expressed a great deal of anger toward Gary.  He hasn't told me that, but I have received some phone calls and I've listened to it.  And the truth of the matter is, when it comes to the area of responsibility, the responsibility for the planning and zoning ordinances in this city, as the responsibility for most things that go on in this city, lay at the feet of the board of aldermen.  That is what we are here for and that's what we do.  I guess you could argue the point some of us may be a little more responsible than others.  I was on the planning and zoning board from 1988 to 1993. That doesn't make me an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I worked with the 1976 ordinances while they were in effect, and I was part of the process that developed the 1997 ordinances which we currently work under.  And so I understand the intricacies and the sometimes difficult situations that you can get into when you're dealing with 23,000 people in a community and trying to write a document that covers as best as you possibly can anything that can happen in a town, good or bad.  And so, Gary, I think you did a good job.  I appreciate your interpretation.  I felt I needed to say that publicly because of some of the things that have been said to me over the phone and in letters.  So I wanted to get that out. And we have a -- we were talking we have another motion.  Is that correct?

BY MAYOR AULTMAN:  I'm sorry?

BY MR. FISHER:  We have another motion?

BY MAYOR AULTMAN:  Yes.  The conditional use is the next item on the agenda.